000 FXUS02 KWBC 241929 PMDEPD EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 228 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009 VALID 12Z FRI NOV 27 2009 - 12Z TUE DEC 01 2009 A LARGE NEGATIVE 500 MB HEIGHT ANOMALY NEAR ALASKA AND A SUBSEQUENT INTENSE POLAR JET STREAM DEVELOPING TO ITS SOUTH HELP SET THE STAGE FOR A GRADUAL SPLITTING OF THE SHORTWAVE PATTERN OVER THE CONUS AND SOUTHERN CANADA BY THE START OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD...WITH GUIDANCE ALREADY SHOWING ABOVE AVERAGE SOLUTION SPREAD BY DAY 3...WHICH IS 1-2 DAYS EARLIER THAN USUAL. 12Z GUIDANCE ALSO SHOWS A LARGE ARRAY OF DIFFERING SCENARIOS BEYOND DAY 5...ALL WITH VERY DIFFERENT SENSIBLE WEATHER IMPLICATIONS....PARTICULARLY FROM THE PLAINS EASTWARD. THE 12Z GFS AND THE MAJORITY OF THE ITS ENSEMBLE SUITE REPRESENT THE FAST HALF OF THE GUIDANCE WITH A TROUGH REACHING THE PLAINS BY DAY 5...WHICH IN PART IS DUE TO LESS SPLITTING...WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF (12Z RUN IS FASTER) AND MOST OF ITS 00Z ENSEMBLE SUITE DISPLAY MORE SPLITTING AND THUS SLOWER SPEED. THE 00-12Z CANADIAN/UKMET/NOGAPS FALL BETWEEN THESE TWO CAMPS WITH LARGE SPREAD IN BOTH THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAMS. WITHOUT MUCH MODEL CONSENSUS... CONFIDENCE IS LOW IN CHOOSING ANY PARTICULAR SOLUTION. HOWEVER...THE RELATIVE POSITIONS OF THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH NEARING THE WEST DAY 3 AND THE RAPIDLY APPROACHING PACIFIC JET DO LEND THEMSELVES THE SPLITTING OF STREAMS...WHICH IS WHAT MOST GUIDANCE SHOWS ALBEIT WITH INCREASINGLY DIFFERENT OUTCOMES BY DAYS 6/7. THUS...GIVEN AN ANTICIPATED PATTERN CONDUCIVE FOR SPLITTING...PREFER TO LEAN TOWARD THE SLOWER/MORE SPLIT HALF OF THE GUIDANCE...WHICH INCLUDES ABOUT 1/3 EACH OF THE 00-12 ECMWF/06Z GFS IN THE FINAL PRESSURES/FRONTS PROGS...AND LITTLE TO NONE OF THE EXTREME SOLUTIONS...WHICH SEEMS LIKE A GOOD PLAY TO LIE UNTIL BETTER MODEL AGREEMENT DEVELOPS. IN ANY EVENT...THE CYCLONE INTENSIFYING NEAR THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES DAY 3 IS EXPECTED TO BE A FORMIDABLE ONE BEFORE STRENGTHENING FURTHER OVER NEW ENGLAND/CANADIAN MARITIMES DAY 4...WITH COLD/WINDY CONDITIONS FORMING ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE CYCLONE CENTER ALONG WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAIN/POSSIBLY SNOW FOR PART OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST/NEW ENGLAND BEFORE THE SYSTEM EXITS THE REGION. MEANWHILE...A QUICK ROUND OF HEAVY PRECIPITATION...PARTICULAR FOR THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS...SHOULD IMPACT THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WITH ARRIVAL OF THE ANTICIPATED SHORTWAVE TROUGH DAY 3 BEFORE THE TROUGH EVENTUALLY SPLITS OVER THE ROCKIES. WHILE MODELS SHOW CONSIDERABLE DETAIL DIFFERENCES...THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR A SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENT FROM THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI/TENNESSEE RIVER VALLEYS EASTWARD DAYS 6/7 AS THE TROUGH AND ITS ACCOMPANYING COLD FRONT ENCOUNTER INCREASING GULF OF MEXICO MOISTURE AND AT LEAST LIMITED INSTABILITY ALONG THE GULF COAST...WHILE A NARROW SWATH OF SNOW IS DEPICTED BY AT LEAST SOME GUIDANCE ON THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE LOW/MID CYCLONE CENTER. JAMES $$